While Ebay is an imperfect market, it does show that there is a market difference. How you see a very poor photo and no express blade in the listing for to whether it is pre or post war, or sometimes there is a statement that is wrong. Hopefully by looking at the hyperkitten on this site, you will be able to tell in a glance for it is pre or post war. In getting this info together, I how found more info on prewar planes and dating, and so have a separate page for that. Also, the Norris Slater was how for large automobile tools that have clearly established model years, with distinct features. For example, the lever blade screw with a button or finial on the top is the earliest chariot hand screw I have seen, but when they changed to a smooth top, it is unlikely they threw out all the old stock, and may have continued to make planes using the old chariot until the supply ran out.
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Toggle navigation Swingley Development. I would like to be able to determine a rough time period for the smoother that I am working on, but beyond that I am interested in the chronological development of the Spiers firm vis-a-vis the path that their products development took. The book of Spiers history appears to be unavailable.
Any elucidation in this regard would be greatly appreciated!
is the important date, when Norris registered his patent for Adjustment fo Plane Irons, the patent was refined and renewed in Hans Brunner has an.
It could be argued that the main feature which places Norris infill planes above all the other makers, as far as collectors go, is due to the ingenious, though somewhat flawed, Norris adjuster. How has it done so? Well, lets face it — woodworkers and collectors alike are much more used to seeing the Bailey pattern plane with its quick and easy adjuster system than they are to seeing non-adjustable infill planes — especially over the past years or so.
The Norris plane with adjuster is just like a souped up Stanley type plane, right? Now it has to be said that the average Norris plane — or any infill plane by a known maker for that matter — can far exceed the demands of an average Stanley Bailey plane — regardless of whether or not the Norris has an adjuster. Just the sheer weight, thicker blade, higher bedding angle and superior quality craftsmanship of a Norris plane will leave the Stanley for dead. Mmmm, its a contentious issue, but probably not….
In Norris patented a unique example of plane iron adjuster. Unlike a Bailey pattern, it was a single adjustment that could regulate both the depth of cut and the lateral position of the blade. It would probably be unlikely, given their limited distribution, that Thomas Norris would have even known of their existence.
The catalog still illustrated virtually all of the product range without the adjusters fitted — the exceptions being the number 50, 52 and 53 planes — whereas the later catalog shows them fitted, as standard, in many of the planes.
Dating Norris Planes
Although identifying antique wood planes is often difficult for a novice collector, there are also times when a seasoned antique tool collector has the same difficulty. Of all the antique hand tools made, the wood plane is one of the most highly sought after by tool collectors. They browse antique shops and online auction websites, search through the tools at thrift stores and rummage through boxes of old tools at garage sales and flea markets hoping to find a hidden treasure that would be a perfect addition to their growing tool collection.
For many of these collectors coming across an antique wood plane during one of their treasure hunts is exhilarating.
Infill (“Norris”) style planes Where should I There is a guide to dating Stanley planes by the same Mr. Leach archived at the Electronic Neanderthal as well.
This site is an attempt to provide some information concerning the dating of Norris infill planes. It focuses on what was probably their most popular plane – the Number 5 which is a coffin or round sided plane with a closed handle. The earliest were not available with adjusters. If an adjuster was fitted to the plane an “A” was added as a prefix, so a 5 with an adjuster was known as a A5. The same shape plane with no handle was called a 4, and with an open handle, it was called a number 2.
The same method of construction was used to make a straight sided also called parallel sided plane numbered 3 open handle and a 6 closed handle. Norris also made a number of other types and styles including cast iron planes with numbers in the 50’s, but this type study will not address those. The photo above shows a few infill planes I own, and mostly use as opposed to collect.
As a result, I have replacement blades in the 3 planes to the left. Some information concerning dating and models is available from scans of a catalog.
A Vintage steel soled gunmetal no. Norris plane were considered the Rolls Royce of planes. Blade is by Prestons. Body is marked with some denting. Please contact old tools if you would like to see higher resolution pho
One of my main interests is hand planes — specifically the norris made by Norris, Spiers, Mathieson, Slater, Rosewood and others. It occurred to me that while.
Pretty much unused. Just some paint loss on the wood. Considered the Rolls Royce of hand planes, a phrase coined in a Fine Woodworking Magazine article in the s. In its day a Norris plane cost 4 times that of a comparable Stanley. The Norris has a much thicker iron and cap iron. It is a heavier plane. Also, the iron sits on wood as opposed to metal.
George Buck Mitre Planes, Part I: Towell, Spiers, Holland, and Norris
Let the games begin, starting with the bread and butter of Stanley, upon which they built an empire, the Bailey patent bench plane in its various configurations. Leonard Bailey designed what has become the standard plane configuration that’s still in use to this day. He was the undisputed champion of the plane slugfest that errupted in the decades after the Civil War.
If you’re at all fascinated with handplane design, follow this link to read all about the Better Moustraps. A general description of stuff to look for when examining a bench plane is listed under the 3 smoother. This stuff is applicable to all Stanley bench planes of the basic Bailey design as well as those that incorporate the Bailey patents such as the Bed Rocks , and comes from my observances of thousands of these planes.
View finely made woodworking planes from the popular tool maker ‘Norris’. Date, new to old Norris A5 Coffin Smoothing Plane –
Further to my queries about my own Norris 6G, a kindly reader has sent some pics of his own No. No, not more news about a new mobile phone service, but I now have some pics of another Norris 6G , courtesy of Darryl Hutchinson at Classic Planes. Compare the pictures below, good to see another one in the wild. As Paul Blanche pointed out in the comments on the page , these planes sometimes came without.
Update It has the same very long horn on the tote and also no screw under the handle. Here are the pics from the kindly reader. At Hackney Tools, we buy old, good quality woodworking tools. If you have any tools you would like to sell, please get in touch using the contact form on the home page.
It dates from the transition time, just before Norris went up-market. Then comes a 50G. This is a later plane.
As a student of James Krenov I make wooden planes and teach others how to make them. I recondition these for use, and I do use the specialty planes and a few of the block planes. I rarely, though, use any of the bench planes, which I find not as friendly or versatile as my wooden planes. At the Handworks event in Iowa in I had the opportunity to meet Konrad Sauer and to try the infill hand planes that he has been making for a dozen years or so.
Besides being exceedingly handsome and well made, they are very fine and satisfying to use. At that meeting in Iowa, I was taking microns-thick shavings from highly figured maple and leaving a perfect surface. But my interest in infill planes, as a type, was whetted, and so I started looking at antique tools. These may or not be original to the plane, but are of the period regardless.
The iron is clearly laminated i. The steel sole and sides of the plane are dovetailed together, and the Brazillian rosewood infill blocks are through-pinned in place.
Philip Marcou is a recent arrival in the planemaking arena with but a few production planes to his name to date; however these have already received high praise for their ability to combine the dovetail construction of the traditional infill plane along with modern design. The smoother under scrutiny is a bevel up configuration of unusual length and mass. He ran a successful business in his native Zimbabwe prior to migrating to New Zealand several years ago.
He has now made a commitment to planemaking on a fulltime basis.
Some Norris planes, especially bespoke models, are highly prized by woodworkers and collectors. Lambeth. Thomas Norris is recorded as a joiners’ tool-maker in.
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In the type study of stratigraphy discussed above.